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The 53 Again

Andrew B — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:14:49 -0000

Lets take another look again, given how things are now shaping up.

Offense - 26

QB (3) - McNabb, Kolb, Feeley

RB (3) - Westbrook, Buckhalter, Booker

FB (2) - Davis, Lawton

WR (6) - Curtis, Brown, Baskett, Avant, Lewis, Jackson

TE (3) - Smith, Celek, Schobel

OL (9) - Thomas, Herremanns, Jackson, Andrews, Runyan, Justice, McGlynn, Jean-Gilles, Dunlap

Defense - 24

DE (5) - Cole, Parker, Clemmons, Howard, Smith

DT (4) - Patterson, Bunkley, Laws, Klecko

LB (6) - Gocong, Bradley, Gaither, Boiman, Jordan, Mays

S (5) - Dawkins, Mikell, Considine, Reed, Demps

CB (4) - Samuel, Sheppard, Brown, Hanson

Special Teams - 3

Akers, Rocca, Dorenbos

Injured Reserve - 2

Abiamiri, Ikegwuono

Notables On the Cutting Room Floor

Moats, Hunt, Wilson, Young, Studebaker, Togafau, Reagor, von Oelhoffen, Cole, Paschal, Graham, Gibson, Childress

Either Davis or Lawton can do what little Tony Hunt did last year. Both are way higher up the depth chart then him (he's not even on it), and both can also play Fullback. I just get the sense that even if Davis wins the FB starting job, Lawton will get kept as a special teams/fullback/big running back role, as the Eagles always keep 5 running backs/fullbacks, either in a 4/1 or 3/2 split. Its entirely possible one of the wideouts like Lewis or Avant gets traded or cut and an additional D or O lineman or linebacker or DB gets added to the roster, a bubble guy like Cole, Graham, Reagor, or Studebaker. Season ending injuries to anyone on the list above also opens the door up to the guys on the cutting room floor. Outstanding play from a UFA like Collins, McBride, Roland, and a causal attitude from someone who thought they had a spot locked up (like Jabar Gaffney a couple of years ago) could also make a bottom of the roster shift.

The inactive 8 with the above roster would initially be 1 QB, 1 RB/FB, 1 WR, 1 OL, 1 OL or TE, 1 LB, 1 DE, 1 S.

Are you tire of Lito like me?

yophillybro — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:41:13 -0000

Is it just me, or are you getting tired of Lito's crying as well. I keep reading stories on how unhappy he is. These stories really bug me. I want to see this team succeed, and I feel that they have a nice team in place. Then Mr Sheppard begins to flap his gums about his contract, it makes me sick.

Its seems like no one cares about the team, only the fans. Mr Sheppard bothers me the most, because he seems to think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. But I keep reading how no one wanted to trade for him, i even read from a previous post that the GMs don't even like him. So Lito is really thinking a little too much of himself. I read in Jason's post how he doesn't like his job, maybe he should retire and work a 9-5 and let someone else play nickle back. I bet you any player in the AFL and Canada would give their right kidney to be in his position, or even just to be the last man on the roster. Any way, I wish this clown would just clam up already.

Also, check out my photo of Lito, I made this over lunch since I was sooo mad. Please tell what you think of Lito or my Lito picture...Thanks

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Jet Favre?!

yomjoseki — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:23:23 -0000

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3522971

The Brett Favre era in Green Bay officially came to an end late Wednesday night as the longtime Packers star quarterback was traded to the New York Jets, the Packers announced.

The exact compensation wasn't immediately available, but it is believed to be a fourth-round draft pick that increases in value depending upon how the Jets perform during the 2008 season.

Good for the Jets, bad for him. Who wants to play the Patriots twice a year on a subpar team? Good news for him is the Jets have made some improvements (other than the obvious upgrade at QB) but I still have a hard time placing the Jets in the playoffs at this point. Looks like Joe Montana II. We'll see. Speculation is pointless, so let it begin!

I've been a while...

cavortingEagle — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:36:58 -0000

In a land of limited internets - where the connections really are like a series of tubes...

I go away and come back to a training camp in full swing. Much better than the early part of July I dare say. Here are my quick takes about what I've caught up on so far.

First off, Westbrook's contract situation: Westy has a legit beef. If you read the PFP, the numbers the Football Outsiders guys crunch suggest that BWest really was the best back in the NFL last year. I've long felt that he deserved a raise, perhaps not 30mil guaranteed, but a raise would be more than appropriate. I think Derek has a really sound idea, too bad he isn't the Eagles front office and Brian's agent.

Secondly, Shawn Andrews - Man. Take your time and get better.

Next, Victor Abiamiri and Chris Clemons. Darren Howard? Anyone? I was pretty confident that the backup long snapper would make the team before I left. Now- I'm damn near certain. I suppose I'm in the minority, but for some reason, I like the guy and I like the effort (I perceive) he's put in during the offseason. I like his versatility - DE/DT - I suspect he makes the team at the cost of Montae Reagor. I actually am not too worried about Vic's injury. We all know that JP was going to make the team and we also know that he has a history of being somewhat tired in the second half of the season, right when Abiamiri should be coming back to full strength.

Around the league.

I have one request - WILL SOMEONE PLEASE PUT AN END TO THE BRETT FAVRE MELODRAMA. I had really hoped that storyline would be finished by now.
Jason Taylor a Skin - Thanks Dan.
Shockey a Saint? Sweet.

Finally, speaking of the Pro Football Prospectus, what a tremendous ally on a long airplane flight. It's interesting enough to while away the moments you're awake, and there are enough statistics to help you fall asleep with ease. I absolutely recommend it to anyone with a long commute and people who just can't get enough of the numbers behind the game.

It's good to be back - I'm looking forward to watching some bad football played by young players on Friday.

Philadelphia Eagles 3-Headed Backfield Ready to Roll on the NFC East

SportsCucumber — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:44:49 -0000

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The Philadelphia Eagles will be running circles around defensive lines this season with their own version of a 3-headed monster. Brian Westbrook, Lorenzo Booker, and Corell Buckhalter will offer up a variety of running styles set tp keep defenses on their tows…and most likely on their backs. Obviously, Westbrook will lead the charge, but Booker has already pushed Buckhalter to number 3 on the head chart. Plus, quietly speaking, we all know Westbrook’s chances of finishing a season completely healthy…I think Booker may be the biggest head on this beast. Come and get in the game with the Eagles and their 3-headed monster at InGameNow. Stay tuned!

E-A-G-L-E-S…EAGLES!

New Fan conduct code

yophillybro — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:29:00 -0000

I found this on ESPN.com today. They are taking all the fun out for us Eagles fans. Now what are we supposed to do at Cowboy games now!

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3520559

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NEW YORK -- The NFL implemented a new code of fan conduct Tuesday, warning that spectators who misbehave will be ejected from stadiums and barred from coming back.

The policy, first recommended by commissioner Roger Goodell at league meetings in April, is aimed at conduct that the league said "detracts from the gameday experience."

It includes bans on:

• Behavior that is unruly, disruptive, or illegal.

• Drunkenness and signs of alcohol impairment that result in irresponsible behavior.

• Foul or abusive language or obscene gestures.

• Interference with the progress of the game, including throwing objects onto the field.

• Failing to follow instructions of stadium personnel.

• Verbal or physical harassment of fans from the opposing team.

"The in-stadium experience is critically important to the NFL, our clubs and our fans and it will be a major focus this season," Goodell said in a statement. "We are committed to improving the fan experience in every way we can -- from the time fans arrive in the parking lot to when they depart the stadium."

The league also left teams the option of adding additional provisions to the code based on local circumstances. It said the guidelines would be contained in mailings to fans and signs posted at stadiums.

Need a little help...

700 Level — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:10:59 -0000

Most of you might remember the video i made last year. Well lovely youtube deleted a few months later due to copyright enfringement... anyway my comp ended up crashing and i lost the actual copy of that. Sucks!!!

Anyway I'm trying to build a new one for this coming season. But the only major holdback is i'm having a terrible time coming up with video from last season that is in good resolution. Does anyone have any? I'd be willing to pay for it.

I have a really nice idea... but unless i get some new video, it'll look a lot like last years... :(

MCNABB we are lucky

FLAeagle — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:23:28 -0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HQ_QF_Douc&feature=related

after watching this im like man we had nothing NOTHING until this guy stepped into philly. ty,koy, rodney man need i say more . with guys who dont even play in the league anymore . talking about injurys man he damn sure has played through alot with all the HEAT from the media and fans i gatta say damn . DUDE IS A BEAST AND DAMN GOOD FOOTBALL PLAYER . watch the vid it reminded me of play after play that nobody but he could have made .

One more dude

anuj — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:16:00 -0000

yo guys, our fantasy football draft was today but we were one man short. i held it off until we find that guy. i sent yobrophilly and invit but dunno if he got it. JasonB, you said u wanted to join, can i get ur email so i can send u an invit. common guys, one more person for us to have 8. post ur email so we can get this draft on the road.

Victor Abiamiri out for some time

yophillybro — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:43:25 -0000

It is clear that Abiamiri may be out to close to 4 months due to the fact that screws were needed to repair his wrist. What does this mean for he defense? Does McDougle get his final chance? Is Darren Howard going to fill in that End spot? Does Juqua Parker start now? Or will the Eagles pursue an end in a trade?

This is definately not good new for the Eagles, its too soon in camp to see Jackson, Samuels be sidelined with hammies and Abiamiri out indefinately with wrist problems and Clemmons suffering severe dehydration.

Whats do you think will be the best fix for this Defense end situation?

BGN Fantasy Football

JasonB — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:38:01 -0000

[Note by JasonB, 07/30/08 11:37 AM EDT ] For anyone that missed the original post...

At a time when NFL players are starting to knock the rust of their bodies in preparation for the NFL season, it's time for fantasy football players to knock the rust of their keyboards.

Everyone who registers for the league will be entered into a random drawing for a slot in the league. There's only so many slots so this is really the only way to do it... Draft date is yet to be determined.

The deadline to register is July 31st! So please don't wait! If you do register, let me know in the comments so I have some idea of how many people want to be in.

Here's how to register. Simply go to the the new AOL Fanhouse Fantasy football page, put in your email and be sure to check "Bleeding Green Nation" as the league you want to join. There will be a prize for the winner and we'll be keeping everyone up to date on the standings as the season progresses. Everyone is welcome, so let's talk some trash and geek out with some fantasy football!

So go now! Do it! Register!!!

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NorthPhillyKid — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:41:32 -0000

it will make you grateful for what you have !

personal update

NorthPhillyKid — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:33:00 -0000

whats up fellas ... im not doin to shabby ... still in a butt load of pain from my knee surgery ... they did remove my torn mensicus' (plural / there are 2 in each knee and i tore both in my right) i partially tore my acl as well but it was a gray area where the doctor said there was a window of opportunity for it to heal very slowly over time ... acl surgery is a big risk and an automatic decision to future knee problems the rest of your life ... sorry donavan lol ... its really painfull man ... i can lift my foot using my thigh and hip but i cant lift my foot using my knee, so this is kind of scary to me ... but time will tell .. im on so much percoset that if you stuck a quarter in my ear id shit one out for you ... which would be a hell of a deal by the way lol cough cough all the pills leave me to lots of bedrest which you would think would lead me to more time here at BGN lol wrong ... when im on percoset i stare at the walls lol ... that and it makes me sleepy as hell ... so i been sleeping alot lol ... im doing ok though i do seem to be progressing as the days pass ... it is 4 days after .... so ill post some iggles news whenever i become coherent enough to stare at the screen for more than 5 mins without going cross eyed ... which by the way i timed this and it took 18 mins and some change to write this lol ...anyways ... phillykid out ... oh and ps .... i been ragging on my friend in iraq who took a picture with the philadelphia eagles cheerleaders .... hes from texas and is a cowgirls fan ....

heres the pic lol

hes the mexican character standing to the left of the army guy with the reflective strap

The Soul win Arena Bowl 2008!

thwalls — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:29:13 -0000

Ok, so it's not the Super bowl, and it's not the Stanley Cup, and it's certainly not World Series...but it is a championship nonetheless that has been brought to Philadelphia (that involves a Football) since 1960 (it's the first championship period since 1983, I know.)

For the most part it was nice to see a football team of philadelphia, arena or otherwise, dominate the field and not simply eek out a victory. True the San Jose Sabercats racked up a number of points in the last 11 seconds of the game but for the majority of all 4 quarters the Soul backed by Matt D'Orazio dominated the field. We've got an amazing quarterback (who happened to be the backup), an outstanding wide receiver core, and the most dominant defensive line in the league. It's nice to have a team in philadelphia dominate, rather than just squeek by. We had a 13-3 season, and to top it off we have the Arena bowl trophy and by the way, it's our third playoff appearance in a 5 season history. Nice.

Now lets see our Eagles take a lesson from the Soul and bring a 13-3 season and a ring to Philadelphia.

Go Eagles.

Asante Samuel Injures Hammie in camp today

FrankD — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:42:44 -0000

About an hour-and-a-half into the two-plus hour session, cornerback Asante Samuel -- Philadelphia's prized $57 million free-agency acquisition -- strained his right hamstring, according to head coach Andy Reid. Samuel pulled up lame during 7-on-7 drills, then walked off the practice field accompanied by a trainer.

Source

It looks like he's got some pretty sensitive hamstrings - especially when you combine this with his aggravated pull from last month.

Farve to Eagles call is over hyped

yophillybro — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:05:03 -0000

This should help to calm down all of those Farve-Eagles rumors. I found this on www.philadelphiaeagles.com.

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/BlogHead.asp

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7/24/08 ... 8:15 am

Andy Reid responded succinctly this morning to a published report that the Packers called the Eagles regarding a potential trade for Brett Favre. "They called and there is no interest on our part whatsoever."

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For a second I was wondering why we wold even talk about Farve. This clarifies everything.

eagles running backs ,who stays who goes ?

EAGLE_MAN71 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:59:10 -0000

Who do you think will be on the field besides Westbrook in certain situations.... Lorenzo Booker.... ? Tony Hunt....? Correll Buckhalter....? Ryan Moats....? They say Booker has a knack for pass catching and mirrors Westbrook with his moves, very fast and has good hands. Maybe Westbrook can get a breather more often with Booker on board. Buckhalter was good last year with 313 yards on just 62 carries and four touchdowns. He also posted an excellent average of over 5 yards per carry from the line of scrimmage. Hunt had an excellent season in 2006 with Penn State, as a senior with 1386 yards and eleven touchdowns. Ryan Moats is also back after an ankle injury ended his season in 2007 during the preseason. But we all know who the star is here !!! Hopefully the contract situation will turn out fine with Westbrook.

Poll

which eagles running back do you think is likely not going to make the team ?

Lets Talk about Westy's 30 mil

NickPampani — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:37:24 -0000

What would happen if we ended up giving westbrook his 30 mil but streached it out over 4 or 5 years with X amount of bonuses?

The Bonuses would hopfuly keep him happy and willing to play over those next 2 years. Yeah we will pay now but we never pay our players what they are worth and we always have alot of cap room so why not use it on the best weapon in football. i understand where 30 mil could be alot, and we want to pervent what happend with shawn Alexander but they are 2 different players. (lets face it Shawn Aexander was never a tough player willing to take a hit) And to top all this off we will end up with a happy Westbrook who keeps getting better every year. I hounestly belive our chnces of winning it all would o way down without Westbrook.

Can't this all be possible?

Will this really hurt us that much? (how much)

Would you guys be willing to do something like this?

LETS TALK and more importantly have a healthy debate like "Shot Glass" was oh so capable of doing.

Eagles Salary Cap info

yophillybro — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:23:19 -0000

This is one of my favorite Websites, it gives us a good feel of the Westbrook contract situation.

http://www.eaglescap.com/current.html

Brian Westbrook current contract

Year	Cap Value	Base Salary	Proration	Other Bonus	Dead $ If Cut
2005	2,630,770	1,430,000	1,200,000	770	0
2006	4,786,980	585,000	1,200,000	3,001,980	4,800,000
2007	3,200,000	2,000,000	1,200,000	0	3,600,000
2008	4,706,720	3,000,000	1,700,000	6,720	3,900,000
2009	5,206,720	3,500,000	1,700,000	6,720	2,200,000
2010	5,506,720	4,500,000	500,000	6,720	500,000
Signed for 6 years, $25,515,000 as part of a 5 year extension in 2005. The deal included a 6M signing bonus prorated over 5 years, a 3M roster bonus in 2006, and a 1.5M roster bonus in 2008 that was converted to a signing bonus and prorated over 3 years.

I reorginized the salaries on Excell, and sorted by highest paid. Notice that BWest is not hurting that bad.

Player

pos

Cap figure

Base Salary

Proration

Bonus

Remaining Pro.

Player	pos	Cap figure	Base Salary	Proration	Bonus	Remaining Pro.
Donovan McNabb	QB	9,401,958	6,300,000	3,095,238	6,720	4,261,904
Asante Samuel	CB	9,145,000	645,000	1,000,000	7,500,000	6,000,000
William Thomas	OT	5,852,858	5,450,000	152,857	250,000	152,857
Shawn Andrews	OG	5,121,250	2,980,000	1,991,250	150,000	5,133,333
Brian Westbrook	RB	4,706,720	3,000,000	1,700,000	6,720	3,900,000
John Runyan	OT	4,556,720	3,200,000	0	1,356,720	0
L.J. Smith	TE	4,522,000	4,522,000	0	0	0
Brodrick Bunkley	DT	4,014,720	689,000	1,285,000	2,390,720	5,140,000
Kevin Curtis	WR	3,833,333	1,900,000	333,333	1,600,000	1,666,666
Lito Sheppard	CB	3,456,720	2,000,000	1,450,000	6,720	2,900,000
Brian Dawkins	S	3,340,054	2,000,000	333,333	1,006,720	333,333
Trent Cole	DE	3,245,250	927,000	2,243,250	75,000	8,643,250
Darren Howard	DE	3,206,720	2,500,000	700,000	6,720	2,100,000
Mike Patterson	DT	3,131,250	585,000	2,471,250	75,000	8,092,500
Sheldon Brown	CB	3,006,720	1,750,000	1,250,000	6,720	2,500,000
Reggie Brown	WR	2,960,708	547,000	2,338,708	75,000	8,117,415
Todd Herremans	OG	2,040,083	1,000,000	1,034,083	6,720	3,567,416
Jerome McDougle	DE	1,982,500	950,000	1,032,500	0	1,032,500
Jaqua Thomas	DE	1,806,720	1,000,000	800,000	6,710	3,200,000
Jammal Jackson	C	1,556,720	550,000	150,000	856,720	450,000
Chris Clemons	DE	1,500,000	600,000	800,000	100,000	4,000,000
Akeem Jordan	LB	1,476,720	370,000	0	1,106,720	0
Joselio Hanson	CB	1,417,000	1,417,000	0	0	0
A.J. Feeley	QB	1,406,720	900,000	500,000	6,720	1,500,000
Monte Reagor	DT	1,400,000	900,000	400,000	100,000	800,000
David Akers	K	1,351,720	1,135,000	210,000	6,720	420,000
Quintin Mikell	S	1,205,000	805,000	250,000	150,000	750,000
Sean Considine	S	1,054,720	927,000	121,000	6,720	121,000
Correll Buckhalter	RB	1,006,720	1,000,000	0	6,720	0
Winston Justice	OT	990,470	445,000	538,750	6,720	1,077,500
Matt Schobel	TE	976,720	850,000	120,000	6,720	360,000
Kevin Kolb	QB	867,345	370,000	490,625	6,720	1,471,875
Jon Dorenbos	LS	820,053	605,000	108,333	106,720	541,665
Kris Wilson	TE	760,000	760,000	0	0	0
J.R. Reed	S	750,000	750,000	0	0	150,000
Greg Lewis	WR	728,386	605,000	116,666	6,720	233,333
Chris Gocong	LB	645,470	445,000	193,750	6,720	387,500
Ryan Moats	RB	643,720	460,000	177,000	6,720	177,000
Dan Klecko	FB	605,000	605,000	0	0	0
Rocky Boiman	LB	605,000	605,000	0	0	0
Marcus Paschal	S	596,720	370,000	0	226,720	0
Victor Abiamiri	DE	576,720	370,000	200,000	6,720	600,000
Max Jean-Gilles	OG	570,595	445,000	118,750	6,720	237,500
Jason Avant	WR	564,970	445,000	113,250	6,720	226,500
Stewart Bradley	LB	541,720	370,000	165,000	6,720	495,000
Tony Hunt	RB	534,220	370,000	157,500	6,720	472,500
Scott Young	OG	526,720	520,000	0	6,720	0
Omar Gaither	LB	486,845	445,000	35,125	6,720	70,250
Kimo von Oelhoffen	DT	485,000	830,000	40,000	0	40,000
Nick Cole	C	453,054	445,000	1,334	6,720	1,334
Hank Baskett	WR	445,000	445,000	0	0	0

Total	0	106,873,612	0	0	0	0
Salary Cap	0	116,729,000	0	0	0	0
Subtotal	0	9,855,388	0	0	0	0
+LTBE Credits	0	14,087,449	0	0	0	0
+Deion Credits	0	1,941,667	0	0	0	0
-Players Not Among Top 51	0	159,137	0	0	0	0
-Dead Money	0	6,305,515	0	0	0	0
Cap Room	0	19,419,852	0	0	0	0
Players Signed	0	51	0	0	0	0
Total Cap Overhang	0	0	0	0	0	0

Torn ACL ?!!?!

NorthPhillyKid — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:25:39 -0000

Thats right ladies and gents ... torn acl is the question ! I go into surgery on the 23rd at 10am to remove both my meniscus in my right knee which are fully torn and caught in my notches of my bones, causing my knee to dislocate and relocate constantly. They are also causing my pcl to be miss aligned and my acl now has an abnormal contour. I am not a doctor, but that doesnt sound good. I had too much water in my knee on my mri results for the doc to be able to tell if ill need surgery on my acl or pcl but when they scope my knee to remove my meniscus' he said they will be able to see 95 % of my knee so we will have to wait till they are inside. Tommorrow is a key chaptor in my life, and ive got butterflies in my stomache as we speak.

My short term side effects from my meniscus surgery will be a risk of blood clots if not keeping my knee above my heart as much as possible for the next couple weeks. I will gain my mobility back on a daily basis though ! I should be able to function during and complete every day normal tasks.

Long term i am going to have authritis in my knee at the age of 24 for the rest of my life lol. I also may require a knee replacement later on in life and whatever other things it may effect.

I just wanted to write this for those of you who know me and actually give a shit about me lol ! I may or may not be able to make it home to philly fir some games if acl surgery comes into play. ACL will require 6-9 months of recovery as we all know from #5. That is all and please say a prayer and wish me luck !