This is quite a splash the eagles made.  What do you guys think of the deal, and how does the cap room look?  Do you think eagles spent too much money? Or do you think this guy is worth it?

with Lito's happiness and more concerned with value in return if we trade him. I doubt we'll get good value because of the injuries.
So If we can't I say keep him.

What is the LEAST you would accept for Lito and be happy about it?  3rd round pick and depth chart fodder?  Or is it "playmaker or keep him"?

The guys on WIP were lukewarm about this deal because Samuel is not that much better than Lito when healthy.  What they are missing is that Samuel usually plays 16 games at a high level.  Lito plays 5 games at a high level, 5 games hurt, and 5 games not at all.  You can't compare Samuel to Lito straight up.  You have to compare Samuel with hurt Lito for five games and Samuel with William James for five games.  I don't think Samuel will be toasted by James Thrash.  So then you see this is a huge upgrade.  Samuel is also a ball hawk and this defense, while pretty effective, couldn't turn the ball over all year.  So this again is big upgrade.  

Don't get too excited about it.

16 interceptions in two CONTRACT years.  But 22 in 75 games for his career.  Also no sacks, no fumble recoveries.

Lito has 17 interceptions in 77 games in his career.  He also has 2 sacks and 1 fumble recovery.

Honestly, I don't see that big a difference at all.

I'm really hoping here that we will keep all three of our starting caliber corners, not foolishly trade away Lito for some chump change 3rd round draft pick which will be wasted on some do-nothing like Billy McMullen or Quinton Caver or Matt Ware.  Otherwise, this was just a big waste of cap money, because Asante Samuel is not 3 times better than Lito Sheppard and there is no guarantee he is going to make 6-10 interceptions every year.

As to Lito crying about his contract, the Eagles gave him $3.6M in 2002 and another $8.8M in 2004, besides paying him $3.5M the last 6 years for about 4 years worth of gametime.  If he invested that $12.5M wisely, it should have doubled by now with just some moderately intelligent stock picks in the market.  My own money has tripled in that time period besides spitting out an annual return of about 8% in dividends.

The entire premise of the Eagles early lock-up of players is to give them a discounted version of the signing bonus they would not receive until several years later.  In Lito's case, being a 1st round pick in 2002 with a 5 year contract, he would not have been a free agent until last year, so he would have been living off the peanuts the Eagles would have been paying under his rookie deal.  Does he really believe he got screwed by being given $10M before the Eagles had to do it?

walketr was just released and im wondring if thats our next move. i know we were interested at one point but are we still. is he worth it and who else is out there.

Would Lito and this years first get a Larry Fitzgerald or a Roy Williams?  Would the Eagles make that trade?  I don't know the answer to either question, but it intrigues me.

Brothers in Arms, I feel that when the season is turning and we can see what the coaches are doing I can really say what I think and feel good about what I am saying. The offseason is a crap shoot really.I don't know what the coaches want and all of what we are doing is speculating and trying to sift through all the crap that the media throws our way. I have to say that I like Samuel as a player, I don't know about his skill set in our system(but what do I know that JJ doesn't? Nothing) that being said I like Sheppard and Brown. Too bad that Sheppard is injury prone. Does anyone know if Sheppard trains with the team in the offseason? I don't know but he doesn't look like a Jerry Rice in the offseason to me. If he doesn't train in the offseason like he should he should prolly give it a shot. But that is just me being presumptious like always.

My comment would be that I think we should keep all 3(Brown, Sheppard and Samuel) If we could get some real good value for Sheppard I would do it, but I don't really know what another team would feel about a above average player that is injury prone. If they think that they can deal with the risk and try and gamble on a playmaker we should do it. If not we should keep him. He doesn't seem to have to much leverage to bargin with the Eagles(my opinion).

My opinion of this signing is that I am really suprised at this whole situation. I might have been wrong and off base with all of my critisim directed at the this front offices philosophies in past few years. I hope that they saw that we were going to have a young team and they wanted to season them up before "bringing in the help". That's actually a really good idea. I hope that's what they planned and it pans out that way. We could have a team of up and coming players mixed with some really good skill guys all at the same time. Great work.

This is really early in the offseason so I can't say anything that everyone hasn't heard but, here goes. I agree that we need to go after somemore defense and draft BDawks replacement, and look for a OT if there is a really good one(Which looks to be the case). I just don't understand Andy on the offensive side of the ball sometimes. I think and I am trying to emphasize THINK; that Andy likes a offense that has a lot of different options for Donovan and keep him protected and let him pick apart the other team. He has shown this in the past and I really like this approach myself. I like the pass to open up the run theory. I hope that he sees that we could use a pass catching FB and maybe a spread the field WR. I think if we can get these guy's we have a really good chance to be a favorite to win the East.

What do you guy's think?
Manningham really stunk up the joint in INDY. I'm not saying that I was totally wrong but he didn't look like a 4.59 WR when I saw him own Justin King in college. You really don't need to be a 4.2 guy to be a great WR. Look a Matt Jones.... He could slip into the late 2nd early third. We could pick him up. Who knows? I do know that Jerry Porter to the JAGS sounds pretty good in theory.

I THINK they should keep Lito, try to work out an extension, draft a good FS (or give Sheldon some reps in 2008 and see how he works out) and then we have the most fearsome secondary in football for another 4-5 years.

I HOPE this doesn't turn out to be another Freak-y signing...hope we didn't overpay for a player with 2 good years who doesn't play to that level in years to come. Note he had less INTs last year than the previous year.

The move to pick up Samuel was a smart move.  Keep Lito and lock down the secondary.  
  If the rumors are true that Randy Moss is open to look at other teams I truely beleive that the Eagles should do what every they can to pick him up.  We can all remember how wonderful it was when T.O. and McNabb were connecting.  A healthy McNabb and Moss would be a great combo.  

Keeping Sheppard and moving Brown to strong safety makes sense to me. Mikel is the nickle and returns to special teams where he excelled. That's my first choice. If Lito's agent can find a trading partner (and let's face it, he's doing exactly that as we speak) that brings a big WR then let's explore it. But until...if...that happens I like having the best secondary in the NFL wearing midnight green!